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Title: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Angels_Decay on January 15, 2010, 07:53:30 AM
So on Grendel's new album Chemicals+Circuitry
what does every one think of the new style of vocals
the 2 songs posted on their myspace from the album don't
sound any thing like the Grendel I know and love.
The vocal styles on Prescription:medicine
and Soilbleed were incredible I was so inspired.
 
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Drewthetexan on January 15, 2010, 09:38:43 AM
It doesn't sound like he's singing through a boxfan anymore.  Yeah, I kinda liked the old vox better.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Angels_Decay on January 15, 2010, 09:54:24 AM
boxfan? is that what its called ?
I know every artist has the right to change their sound
my latest dance track is all hip hopy progressivy house
but for songs from my Angels Decay project
I am going to shoot for uhh "boxfan"
..that has a nice ring to it haha
Do you know what effects possessors or vocadors
are good for that style

D Y M actually has quality distorted boxfan too
and G O D M O D U L E and S U I C I D E  C O M M A N D O
and U N T E R N U L L hehe

and amduscia doesn't even need any vocal effects
I saw them live and Polo amduscia already
has the voice for it.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Lexus on January 15, 2010, 06:08:58 PM
It made me cry like a baby when I heard it.

Like seriously, that album is something I wouldnt wipe my own ass with. It has like 10 songs, of which 2 are pretty good, 1 mediocre and the rest is all utter shit. Thanks to the vocals. Well, there are only 3 original songs on it, the rest is all remixes. And when people like Thomas Rainer [dude from Nachtmahr] or Modulate cant make it sound any better you know you made a musical abomination.

I mean, it sounds like fucking Fallout Boy with more bass.


Meh, it appears they got a huge negative backlash from their fans, as they where saying they where trying something new but the actual album would sound more like Grendel as we used to know it.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Angels_Decay on January 16, 2010, 10:27:03 AM
LMFAO @ fall out boy with more bass...

well I thought they were going for more of a synth pop thing,
artists can change there style and it's not that its always bad
it just depends what the listener is into,
I like the "boxfan", scream whisper, effects" because I
feel it sounds magical and mysterious and harsh and
goes so well with the distorted snares and rhythms
and if you listen to how demons and villains sound on
some Anime, and movies it sounds kinda like that so yeah
that why I personally like that style of vocals.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Lexus on January 16, 2010, 11:50:50 AM
LMFAO @ fall out boy with more bass...

well I thought they were going for more of a synth pop thing,
artists can change there style and it's not that its always bad
it just depends what the listener is into,
I like the "boxfan", scream whisper, effects" because I
feel it sounds magical and mysterious and harsh and
goes so well with the distorted snares and rhythms
and if you listen to how demons and villains sound on
some Anime, and movies it sounds kinda like that so yeah
that why I personally like that style of vocals.

Well yeah, only synthpop vocals dont match with a fast and harsh sound. Like combining black metal with a guy that sings clearly. Some groups do it, and they sound like shit IMO.

And well, this is mostly about myself. I have certain expectations about Grendel and what they should sound like. This most definitely did not match any of my expectations so I think it sounds like crap. And quite frankly, thats to bad for me. It is their music, their group and they decide what they will do next. My personal opinion on their music is pretty much irrelevant.

It just means I either have to adapt or hope they do match my expectations again next album. Or just stop liking their new stuff and keep listening to the old stuff.

However, that doesnt mean I cant bitch about it on the Internet.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: rusty on January 16, 2010, 12:05:35 PM
hello, this is my first post here, but this is a theme, i just discussed with my friends, and i thougt by myself "wft ???", and "am i the only one, who will dislike this "new" style ? " ...

well, i heard that, but..... for me it sounds like its some old girlie electro style + CC vox + ayria vox ....

but ... where is the "grendel inside" ? that dark pieces of full energy and aggression ??? ....

i really like to dance to that music, and i love music with messages, like tactical sekt or fgfc, but the last two yrs. i see more and more no-brainer shit at the clubs and the "old heroes" are disappearing... nurzery rhymes just quit, tactical didnt made an album since 06, and the only concert i see is one in may somewhere in the usa... and grendel ... well ... see it... but the new one from wynardtage is nice. i like that "walk with the shadows album" <3 ...

i heard at the last yr. some rumors that grendel thougt about changing their sound. but i never thougt, THAT will come... i even won`t spent a cent for that kind of music ... so i also heard that they are counting with "some" confusing fans... hehe, time will show, how much of them will be....

atm ì`m watching whats going on in south america and spanish speaking countries... like hocico, amduscia, projecto crisis, punto omega...

greets from germany, and a nice weekend for you all ;)

rusty


Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: vionic on January 16, 2010, 03:48:04 PM
Just listened to a minute of it on myspace.  I don't like it, either.  It's not dark anymore, it sounds too upbeat and poppy.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Shirow on January 16, 2010, 06:11:41 PM
Guess I will check it out soon..
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Orfeo on January 18, 2010, 06:15:31 AM
just thought I'd throw my tuppence of whining into the ring on this one...
I've been thinking the same thing about the EP. Saw Grendel live soon after it came out, and was really glad they stuck to the old stuff in the set. While I agree with the comments on the vocal style, what also gets me are the lyrics themselves- 'three days on awake on a shitload of coke' seems to be just a description of what they were doing when writing these tracks, a twitter update not a song lyric. and 'harder faster louder'? erm, no, no it's not. Not a patch on the cyberpunkish imagery of their other stuff.
It's a bit disappointing. I was really into covenant and Apop a few years ago, until they did a 180 turn on their style. Now the same thing seems to be happening with my new favourites...
still, on the plus side it's an impetus to go out (or rather sit and listen to DG) and find new stuff...
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Drewthetexan on January 18, 2010, 09:10:36 AM
Maybe VLRK got a girlfriend.  That tends to soften guys up a bit.

Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Angels_Decay on January 18, 2010, 01:45:10 PM
yeah, the best thing to do as a quote "dark" quote "industrial" quote "underground" producer
is no matter how ok things become in life you have to keep your self in the complete utter misery of the past and use the advantage of life going better(financial structured professionalism) to enhance the hatred the sadness and the shock of previous horrible experiences to keep raw expression.

When people say they like "the old school so and so" it means that the band producer or DJ in the early years had something raw and hardcore inside of them that defined their art and musical expressions
in intricate ways that came out as something original and  direct.
Then there's some bands and producers that are always raw and defined no matter what their lives are like some times they keep it though out time form the start.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Drewthetexan on January 18, 2010, 01:59:25 PM
... quote "dark" quote "industrial" quote "underground" ...

I have to say that was very redundant redundant. :)
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Angels_Decay on January 18, 2010, 03:07:45 PM
hehe k

some bands and artists are better in earlier years
some bands and artists are good in all stages of their time.
 
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Lexus on January 18, 2010, 03:32:46 PM
Why would you have to hate things or act like you hate things to make good industrial music? I bet you can make awesome aggrotech without having to hate everything. It be a nice change from all the guys that act like they hate everything while they really dont have any reason for that hate... It makes them sort of emo.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: XxjadexX on January 20, 2010, 12:32:43 AM
lol the new songs are on DG now  guess ever one will get the hear them now
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Shirow on January 20, 2010, 05:20:01 PM
Only a couple and I think they both don't have any singing ;)
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: ryno525 on January 24, 2010, 12:49:41 AM
If It aint broken..don't fix It. The new vox blows.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Angels_Decay on January 27, 2010, 01:31:39 PM
Why would you have to hate things or act like you hate things to make good industrial music? I bet you can make awesome aggrotech without having to hate everything. It be a nice change from all the guys that act like they hate everything while they really dont have any reason for that hate... It makes them sort of emo.

well the "hate" thing your talking about can be like shit that their going through in life, things that bother them about the world, and in the early stages when the music is raw I think that the feelings inside them really lets the music become manifested, but it all depends on the artist.
And actually a lot of that angry kind of sound isn't always anger, a lot of the time its excitement
extreme euphoria, enthusiasm for the music etc.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Lexus on January 27, 2010, 02:38:01 PM
well the "hate" thing your talking about can be like shit that their going through in life, things that bother them about the world, and in the early stages when the music is raw I think that the feelings inside them really lets the music become manifested, but it all depends on the artist.
And actually a lot of that angry kind of sound isn't always anger, a lot of the time its excitement
extreme euphoria, enthusiasm for the music etc.


Yeah but why would you have to make music about that? I can get the angry sound, but thats just an automatic result of vocal distortion and the speed of the music. He can sing about birds and bees and still sound angry. Just like a black metal dude can make songs about the sun and it would still sound like hes in some sort of satanic ritual summoning deamons.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Izoscine on January 27, 2010, 02:52:04 PM
I personally like what Grendel did with the vocal changes. Honestly, I'm was getting bored of the "donald - duck" voice as far as music releases in thise "scene" goes.  I admit it's a bit too poppy compared to earlier releases, but at least this shows that VLRK  can actually sing. The only song I dislike on the EP is Shortwired.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Angels_Decay on January 27, 2010, 07:00:57 PM
good response well said,
I might actually buy the new able who knows.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: XxjadexX on January 27, 2010, 09:30:05 PM
I personally like what Grendel did with the vocal changes. Honestly, I'm was getting bored of the "donald - duck" voice as far as music releases in thise "scene" goes.  I admit it's a bit too poppy compared to earlier releases, but at least this shows that VLRK  can actually sing. The only song I dislike on the EP is Shortwired.
   well if u want to hear that kind of sound then go for some other band its not a good sound for Grendel there is nothing wrong with change but not all change is good seems to me that this is a bad change for Grendel some one in  here said if its not broken then don't fix it well they are right

Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Drewthetexan on February 25, 2010, 02:53:16 PM
So, finally heard the new Grendel song on DG. I did not recognize it, and was surprised, of course, when I looked. 

It wasn't bad, but then there weren't any vocals. 

But, when the first word(acronym) I hear is MDMA, it totally explained the new sound. 
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
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Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: faelaenx on May 15, 2010, 11:04:37 AM
Think i'm going to request one so i can hear it... though if both of them don't have much singing, how can we truly know what the new sound is?
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Lexus on May 15, 2010, 04:14:57 PM
Think i'm going to request one so i can hear it... though if both of them don't have much singing, how can we truly know what the new sound is?
Youtube?

No but seriously, I thought it would be inappropriate to upload terrible songs to DG just so everyone could hear how hard it sucks.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: PsychoDoughboy on May 23, 2010, 09:41:07 AM
You can listen to the new songs @ spotify, too.

I'm not fond of their new vocal style at all. They sound just like every other band now.. too mainstream and boring :C

Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: db on July 02, 2010, 12:17:47 AM
First his voice is terrible on this album , and live this is not really better ;)
That make me cry! like the two last Informatik album :((((((( Why he just not change is band name?
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: shadows_illuminated on July 02, 2010, 12:46:10 AM
It reminds me of Breathe Carolina.  I never liked them but it a bit more tolerable to me now.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Drewthetexan on July 02, 2010, 07:54:37 AM
First his voice is terrible on this album , and live this is not really better ;)
That make me cry! like the two last Informatik album :((((((( Why he just not change is band name?

My guess, rather than pursuing and promoting a new side project, he just took this one in a wholly different direction.  It's not bad, but it's not "Grendel", either.
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: Leviathan on July 13, 2010, 03:11:40 AM
This is the thread that never ends, it goes on and on, my friends....
Title: Re: Grendels new vocal style
Post by: billiskye92 on October 26, 2010, 07:34:51 AM
I will admit I am a tad bit iffy about it, I mean Im someone that doesn't like change to much, but maybe change is good and sometimes needed. Plus it opens our ears maybe they might just be like oh wait we want to change it back lol and then come out with a new new album or something.

Yea know like the slurm thing from futurama haha.